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Choosing a mic for jamkazam |
Posted by: Val - 06-22-2020, 06:16 PM - Forum: Help with Audio Gear
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I sing with a couple of friends and they're constantly telling me to be louder. We've adjusted all kinds of settings but the problem remains. I have a SHURE SM58, (currently on a desktop stand) and find I have to almost eat the mic to get a satisfactory volume. This gets in the way of my guitar, which already bangs on my computer desk.
Can anyone recommend a mic that I can use at a greater distance? I'm willing the spend the money within reason.
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Cannot get low latency with USB audio gear |
Posted by: Steven Minzer - 06-22-2020, 06:00 PM - Forum: Help with Audio Gear
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I am having difficulty figuring out the best way for me to setup my gear for playing in jamkazam sessions.
I have an acoustic piano, an old Sony Vaio PC and a newly-purchased Behringer XENYX Q802USB. I have been using Jamkazam predominantly to rehearse with an acoustic bass player who lives not far from me. My observations in this posting are based on Jamkazam sessions with the bass player, though I aspire to play with others at greater distances as well. The bass player has been exclusively using Realtek WMD so far, though he too has recently acquired a Behringer audio interface and may be confronted with similar issues.
I have been considering the following options, which I will discuss below.
- Realtek WMD
- WMD USB Audio
- ASIO4ALL
- Reaper ASIO
- Native driver
(1) Realtek WMD
I first tried the Realtek WMD after initially installing Jamkazam, before purchasing the Behringer, using my PC mic to pick up audio. My latency was low, around 5-6 ms., and my jitter was generally acceptable. Jamkazam’s only “complaint” was that I was using WMD, not ASIO. Nonetheless, I bought the Behringer hoping to be able to use a better microphone while retaining low latency, so far without success.
(2) WMD USB Audio
While Behringer recommends using ASIO4ALL for its Q802USB, many Jamkazam users have noted problems with it, so I tried using the Windows WMD USB Audio driver first. Latency increased to 20ms, making it difficult to play together. There was a tendency for our tempo to slow down during a tune , so I decided to go back to using Realtek for rehearsals.
(3) ASIO4ALL
Deciding to check out ASIO4ALL for myself, I discovered that I could not successfully use the smaller frame sizes (around 2.5 ms.), needing to set my frame size to 10 ms, to get intelligible audio. This resulted in 31 ms. latency. Inexplicably it seemed easier for us to play together when I used ASIO4ALL than WMD USB Audio. If I retry WMW USB again, would we still have problems playing together?
(4) Reaper ASIO (Rearoute ASIO)
After reading an excellent Jamkazam forum posting by marhdeth ( https://forum.jamkazam.com/printthread.php?tid=537 ) , I followed the recommendation, trying the Reaper DAW. Using a 2.5 ms frame size, I brought latency down in the jamkazam test to 5-6 ms. However I was not able to successfully add this gear configuration to my audio profile, failing the I/O rate and variance test. In a response to the marhdeth posting, Nick Blair reported having the same problem, and the thread does not posit a solution.
Nonetheless, this result was encouraging since I finally obtained low latency for a setup using a superior microphone connected to the Behringer. But it leaves the question of what to do about the I/O test problem.
It seems that my PC may be the culprit. I have observed that the processor utilization percentage reported by Jamkazam for my VAIO using Rearoute ASIO are considerably higher than those for the bass player using Realtek. His PC is newer than mine.
The CPU of my PC is an Intel® Core2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz. It has 4.0 GB DDR2 memory, with Task Manager showing 2.1G, 55%, in memory utilization without Jamkazam or Reaper running.
Is there something that I can do with my PC to pass the test? Or must I invest in a new one for the sake of Jamkazam? Obviously, I don’t want to lay out a lot of cash and then discover the purchase does not solve the problem or was unnecessary for addressing it.
(5) Native Driver
Some USB audio interface devices use an ASIO driver recommended by their manufacturer. There are suggestions on the Internet that a driver designed for a different product can be substituted for ASIO4ALL. I tried one such suggestion recommending a Behringer ASIO driver and it did not work for me. I do not think I will try something like this again without first getting approval from someone affiliated with Behringer.
Suggestions from anyone knowing how to best deal with my situation would be appreciated.
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Marantz MPM 2000U USB mic not recoginised |
Posted by: Nicb2317 - 06-22-2020, 11:35 AM - Forum: Help with Audio Gear
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Tried connecting a Marantz MPM 2000U USB mic to Jamkazam last night. The mic did not appear as an available option on the audio gear list (all other available devices eg onboard Soundblaster ASIO did appear). Anyone had a similar issue and/or have any idea what's going on?
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Distributed JamKazam Servers (Host) to improve performance |
Posted by: kaminskied@comcast.net - 06-21-2020, 01:43 AM - Forum: Miscellaneous
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Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly propredictable between the same locations. In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart. Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.
Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session. This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.
Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.
Wondering
(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly unpropredictable between the same locations. latecy is influced by routing In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart. Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.
Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session. This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.
Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.
Wondering
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How to correct red latency? |
Posted by: Netdawg - 06-21-2020, 12:00 AM - Forum: Help with Audio Gear
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I just started with Jamkazam. My buddy has a very old Alesis eight channel audio interface. We were able to play together, but on his stats, latency was red. We went to Manage - Audio - Audio Booster and tried to lower the latency, but it resulted in static in his headset. Do you think the audio interface is the issue? Is that the place to start? Typically is the internet speed the problem? He has a standard cable internet connection and is wired in to his router.
Thanks for the help.
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What's the best audio interface? |
Posted by: Netdawg - 06-20-2020, 11:56 PM - Forum: Help with Audio Gear
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I just started using Jamkazam. I have to say that what is happening here is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. How on earth is it free. I will be donating, because this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen!
I'm trying to bring my group of musicians over to JK. Needless to say they are old school. Audio interfaces are not their thing. Singing and playing they rock at. I'm going to try to handle the technical side for them and buy them an Audio Interface. In most cases it will be a single instrument (guitar, bass) or a single singer. Since I'll be flipping the bill for the hardware, what's the cheapest one or two input interface that works well with Jamkazam. I see a lot of forum posts about problems with specific focusrite hardware. What would you buy if you wanted it to work and save money?
Thanks!!
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Solo and Mute |
Posted by: Squid - 06-20-2020, 09:23 PM - Forum: New Feature Requests
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I have two requests:
1.Please can you provide a Solo option (this will make it easier to focus on the chords someone is playing, and make it easier to identify the source of strange noises).
2. Please make it harder to mute people (often when I attempt to change the volume of a particular player I end up muting them).
Thanks
Squid
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Using Blue Yeti USB mic in Windows 10 |
Posted by: Oboist - 06-20-2020, 08:57 PM - Forum: Help with Audio Gear
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I am working with a small group of classical musician friends who all have somewhat different setups. All but one are in Mac IOS (3 have iMacs, one has MacBook Pro). Our clarinetist is on a Windows 10 machine. As the "leader" of this $ndig, I have all of these systems and have been working on the playbook for my folks to get set up.
I have had good success in getting the Mac IOS machines up and running using both Digital Audio Interface (Focusrite Scarlet Solo and 2i2) and the Blue Yeti USB mic. Latency is acceptable and I have had sessions with a couple of these people that worked OK (some issues, but that will be for later).
I am running into a problem using he Blue Yeti with Windows 10. Latency is stubbornly at 20mbs. Can't seem to get any of the normal adjustments to make any differences. Has anybody run into this and solved it?
Thanks!
Mike
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