DAW into JamKazam?

[Patrice Brousseau]

I posted this to the FB group JamKazam Jammers.  I hope it helps the Mac users with Logic.  Should be similar setup though for any DAW in MacOS.

Integrating your DAW with JamKazam in MacOS

ERIC MCQUAID·TUESDAY, APRIL 7, 2020·

Integrating a DAW is tricky. At least it was for me... You need a Virtual Interface like Soundflower, Soundsiphon, or Blackhole...  This should work for any internal source like a DAW, any internal audio like youtube or music from any player, etc...

You can test this by starting a solo session and recording your audio. If the recording has the DAW effects or internal audio, you're good to go ...  if not, you need to configure some additional software..

To get my gear working with Logic Pro X, I installed Blackhole on my mac and then I created an Aggregate Device under Audio MIDI Setup.

Here are some step-by-step instructions for MacOS.

Integrating a DAW with JamKazam in MacOS

In the Digital Audio Workstation(DAW) such as Logic Pro X(LPX) Preferences:
Input is your Audio Interface (AI),
Output to Blackhole,

In Audio MIDI Setup(this is a settings page in Mac.  To get there, I hit Command+Space and type audio midi setup and select it from there...):
Create an Aggregate Device(AD) with both of those.. I called my AD AgJam so I will never forget the purpose of this AD, but you can name this AD after your dog, your guitar or whatever.
Set your AI as the Clock Source and enable Drift Correction(DC) for each source besides the AI, so check DC for Blackhole.

In JamKazam(JK):
Your Audio Gear setup Inputs is Blackhole,
Output is Audio Interface.

Back in your DAW:
Finally, you start a short loop in Logic.  I have a a 4 bar loop, press spacebar and those 4 bars just repeat over and over.  This must be playing for the DAW to send audio to Blackhole.  I am novice in LPX, so if I have described this incorrectly or if there is another way to achieve this critical piece, please let me know.

** NB: You will not hear audio until you return to JK and join a session. **
Thank you to Benoît Lemonde who assisted me in getting my LPX configured and working with Jamkazam. I never could have done this without you Benoît.  My skillz just didn’t match this challenge!  Thank you, Benoît.

Wow, maybe we can tweak the CoreAudio latency this way.

Thanks for the detailed description.

[GDJ]

When I tried using the DAW methond, the latency increased back to JK regardless of lowering the buffer. Aren't we adding another layer in the signal chain with this method? I'm curios what he point is? I have a zero latency interface (MOTU), and instead of the DAW use CueMix which is zero latency - DSP.

[bullmoon]

I am doing this with my DAW and other audio software. Probably different solutions depending on your audio interface. I use an RME Fireface interface with TotalMix that allows audio outputs to be looped back into other audio inputs(without using a patch cable), just as if they were an audio source. I think MOTU and a few others have this feature - super handy.

[GDJ]

I am doing this with my DAW and other audio software.  Probably different solutions depending on your audio interface.  I use an RME Fireface interface with TotalMix that allows audio outputs to be looped back into other audio inputs(without using a patch cable), just as if they were an audio source.  I think MOTU and a few others have this feature - super handy.

Thanks and I see your point. I'll have to investigate the routing options from the DAW. I do not use the VSTs pulled into JK, and pretty much use hardware effects but it would be cool to see if can run DSP effects through the DAW setup with individual channels too.

And yes, MOTU is a zero latency interface with a GUI front end called CueMix (not a DAW). It allows for custom mixes and has onboard DSP effects for Verb, Dynamic: compression, limiter, and EQ. In my case I have 8 analog I/O, using pairs of 1-2 (l/r), 3-4, and 5-6. Translates into three tracks in JK.. and works nicely. I eliminated the need for a hardware mixer in front of the interface mixing down to channels 1 & 2. Less noise introduced in the chain too.

I think my next setup will be with my iPad in front of JK. I recently moved all my pedals to the iPad and like the sound I'm getting. I have a Melo Audio TS Mega MIDI controller as the I/O, which is also an interface.

good conversation

[Filote]

I posted this to the FB group JamKazam Jammers.  I hope it helps the Mac users with Logic.  Should be similar setup though for any DAW in MacOS.

Integrating your DAW with JamKazam in MacOS

ERIC MCQUAID·TUESDAY, APRIL 7, 2020·

Integrating a DAW is tricky. At least it was for me... You need a Virtual Interface like Soundflower, Soundsiphon, or Blackhole...  This should work for any internal source like a DAW, any internal audio like youtube or music from any player, etc...

*Snip*

Thanks, this is a huge help!

[Mike Giamberardino]

The way I do it is using the Reastream plugin  which is available from the reaplugins on the reaper website.  Its totally free and is just a plugin. so you simply have to throw it on your master bus in your daw and have it as a plugin on an insturment track in jamkazam.  

will work with any DAW just make sure you get the 32bit one I don't think jamkazam can load 64bit plugins

[Filote]

I'm on a Mac. Just got LoopBack by Rogue Amoeba, works great & simple to patch in.

[Nick Costa]

I'm on a Mac. Just got LoopBack by Rogue Amoeba, works great & simple to patch in.

So you're using Logic and Loopback and are able to export audio into JK and collaborate with others in near real time?

I'm using Logic Pro X 10.5.  I've created the Aggregate device described earlier.  Black Hole is installed.

I've tried it, using the guidance Eric provided, and have had no luck thus far.   Tonight JK has been cra$ng as soon as I press record, so there may be other issues.  Hopefully that will resolve soon.

Please advise.

Thanks,

NC

[kempjef]

The way I do it is using the Reastream plugin  which is available from the reaplugins on the reaper website.  Its totally free and is just a plugin. so you simply have to throw it on your master bus in your daw and have it as a plugin on an insturment track in jamkazam.  

will work with any DAW just make sure you get the 32bit one I don't think jamkazam can load 64bit plugins

Can you give a bit more detail...I don't get  how to 'throw it on your master bus' and 'have it as a plug in' would work.  Also, are ther other details within the Reaper settings, preferences, etc.?  How does JamKazam recognize the settings?  Thanks.

[Zlartibartfast]

Rather than add latency and CPU overhead, I run a DAW on one computer then JK on another. The DAW plays into the S/PDIF port of my audio interface, allowing me to play audio from DAW into JK

Alternatively, I can connect my tape recorder or record player or whatever in place of the DAW. If you have hardware, use it rather than software!