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(02-07-2021, 12:15 PM)Dimitri Muskens Wrote:
(02-07-2021, 08:36 AM)graham Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 11:11 PM)Dimitri Muskens Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 09:06 PM)graham Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 08:33 PM)Dimitri Muskens Wrote: >>>
Hi Graham, just assuming you mean 2.26 & 2.27 ...


Take it from there. Shouldn't be too crazy on deps. But ...

I'm a little worried about the "as far as I can tell" - why would you not know for sure? (Leap 15.2 also has glibc 2.26 per the release - they are rather slow)
I downloaded the glibc 2.7 rpm and tried to install it but it gave me some dangerous looking warnings that scared me enough that I didn't proceed with it. I could try it again and copy the warnings here if you think you could help me with it. I don't know enough about this subject to be able to predict the consequences.
Thank you for responding.

Again, assuming you mean 2.27 ??!!

How 'scary' can Linux get?
Here is the scary bit
And yes I mean 2.27 my apologies for the typo.

Nothing scary there ... .
Since you're playing with internet/p2p/audio-sw on the box, I assume it's not a heavily involved production environment(?)

Of course I don't know how actively your Suse box is involved in 'controlling' your network environment (running NIS/LDAP?), but many can do without Name Service Caching just fine. If you don't know, just manually stop the service and see what gives ... . (is it even running?)
Apart from that, did you try to resolve the issue with a newer version of nscd? (might you indeed need it on that box)
E.g. Leap 15.2 has a newer version of that package.

Are you comfortable enough in Linux to go beyond 'clicking in the GUI?'

Anything 'alarming' in the "141 more..." ?
I stopped nscd without any noticeable difference. The 141 more seem to include an awful lot of my development related things for graphics and audio like Magick++ , alsa and ancillary things like xml. I write c++ software for audio, MIDI and photographic applications and I don't want to break those.
Here is the full list
#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2021-02-07 14:18:29 ####

nscd-2.26-lp150.11.20.1.x86_64 requires glibc = 2.26, but this requirement cannot be provided
not installable providers: glibc-2.26-lp150.10.13.x86_64[openSUSE-Leap-15.0-1]
    [ ] break nscd-2.26-lp150.11.20.1.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies

    [ ] Following actions will be done:
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    [ ] do not install glibc-2.27-lp150.496.1.x86_64

#### YaST2 conflicts list END ###

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Hi Graham, there's very little in Linux that cannot be resolved but in some cases (OpenSuse being one) the distro in itself does not work in your favor (very slow in updating some packages). I can understand if you don't want to go there.
You mentioned possibly using another distro. Ubuntu Studio seems to be a favorite. If you want to stay in the RPM realm Fedora is pretty solid and knows specified spins (Jam) as well.

I will cuss a little now ... .
JKz runs just dandy on W10 & macOS10/11 ... 

(02-08-2021, 12:52 PM)Dimitri Muskens Wrote: >>>
Hi Graham, there's very little in Linux that cannot be resolved but in some cases (OpenSuse being one) the distro in itself does not work in your favor (very slow in updating some packages). I can understand if you don't want to go there.
You mentioned possibly using another distro. Ubuntu Studio seems to be a favorite. If you want to stay in the RPM realm Fedora is pretty solid and knows specified spins (Jam) as well.

I will cuss a little now ... .
JKz runs just dandy on W10 & macOS10/11 ... 

Dimitri, thanks very much for helping resolve whether I can do this or not. Looks like not. I have a spare drive and will install Ubuntu Studio on it and try that. At the moment I have to boot into Windows 8.1 to run JK and although it performs very well, I lose all the facilities I have in my Opensuse environment. Booting into Ubuntu should be a small step forward in that I will at least be able to access my Opensuse hard drive.
Just out of curiosity I tried Fedora Jam Live ('studio' distro spin)
That will also take some tweaking. For starters there are no dev packages. Can of course be easily added.
Not all needed libs are available (which can also be added)
Tried another online jam/collab platform. That also needed several deps resolved.
Being a quick test I didn't go forward.

Going to see what Ubuntu Studio is about now ... .

You can download the Linux beta here - https://jamkazam-repo.s3.amazonaws.com/linux_build/jk_linux-01-10-2021.tar.xz   This beta does not have video support.
1. Expand the file change to the directory
2. Run the app by running ./run.sh
3. You can run with elevated realtime privilege which gives for steadier IO rate by modifying the run command to

Updates to placed in the directory  https://jamkazam-repo.s3.amazonaws.com/linux_build/ 

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