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Electronic Drums - drummerman68 - 12-12-2021
I have a KAT KT 3 and I just started using this program with a friend and I was wondering what is the best way to set up the sound for my kit,would I use less volume from the kit and more from the program itself?
RE: Electronic Drums - Zlartibartfast - 12-16-2021
(12-12-2021, 03:03 PM)drummerman68 Wrote: I have a KAT KT 3 and I just started using this program with a friend and I was wondering what is the best way to set up the sound for my kit,would I use less volume from the kit and more from the program itself?you will need to use zero volume from the kit and 100% from the Jamkazam application. Otherwise, you will hear yourself playing with an echo, and everyone else in your session will seem to be "late" against the beat.
RE: Electronic Drums - tdacox - 01-11-2022
(12-12-2021, 03:03 PM)drummerman68 Wrote: I have a KAT KT 3 and I just started using this program with a friend and I was wondering what is the best way to set up the sound for my kit,would I use less volume from the kit and more from the program itself?
Here is my setup for Roland TD-17 - using 2 (1/4") TRS cables, I plug the TD-17 (L & R) into a 4 channel mixer input. The mixer is then connected via Control Room outputs (L&R) into a Behringer UMC204HD (using inputs 1&2) which is then in turn, plugged into a Windows 10 PC using USB.
The levels (or gains) on each are as follows:
1) on the TD-17 module, "Volume" is set to 90-95% output. This is not volume, it is "signal" or gain going to the mixer
2) on mixer, the drum input channel at +0.25db past 0.0 (like 2 o'clock if looking down on it). The Control Room output is about the same: +0.25db past centre. This delivers plenty of signal/gain out to the Behringer device (and my stereo via the master outputs when not in session)
3) on the Behringer, the input Gains for both 1&2 channels are set to about 50% (12 noon).
With this setup, and headphones connected to the Behringer, I can have the headphone level at about 50-60% and have decent, loud sound from the drums while in session on JK. And using a direct monitoring mix, I need very little signal "direct" to blast out the sound via headphones or physical speakers connected to the Behringer.
Why a mixer you may ask? I also have a microphone and an electronic guitar plugged into the same mixer. This allows me to mix all 3 inputs on the mixer before going to my PC, complete with EQ.....
RE: Electronic Drums - Dan Miller - 01-20-2022
does anyone use midi setup instead of audio connections, there is an option in the audio setup, but I can't get it to work, I'm using Roland e drums, and would rather use midi than TRS audio connect to my interface
RE: Electronic Drums - Dimitri Muskens - 01-21-2022
(01-20-2022, 10:25 PM)Dan Miller Wrote: does anyone use midi setup instead of audio connections, there is an option in the audio setup, but I can't get it to work, I'm using Roland e drums, and would rather use midi than TRS audio connect to my interface
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Why would you rather connect through MIDI?
What would you be triggering?
RE: Electronic Drums - Zlartibartfast - 01-21-2022
I have tried using MIDI tracks in Jamkazam - when it works, it works fine, but most of the time I either "lose" the track in a session (it just disappears), or I get too much latency back to my VST synth, so I decided to keep it all in the audio domain.
Latency, for a drummer, is a terrible thing.
You will be much better off using the audio TRS connection. Trust me - I'm an old guy and I've been using MIDI since 1985 ;-}
RE: Electronic Drums - Dan Miller - 01-21-2022
(01-21-2022, 01:17 AM)Dimitri Muskens Wrote:I would be using easy drummer plug-in, JamKazam gives you the option in setup with midi , I'm just wondering if it is used by anyone, I'm still trying to figure out this whole setup with Jamkazam(01-20-2022, 10:25 PM)Dan Miller Wrote: does anyone use midi setup instead of audio connections, there is an option in the audio setup, but I can't get it to work, I'm using Roland e drums, and would rather use midi than TRS audio connect to my interface
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Why would you rather connect through MIDI?
What would you be triggering?
(01-21-2022, 03:01 AM)Zlartibartfast Wrote: I have tried using MIDI tracks in Jamkazam - when it works, it works fine, but most of the time I either "lose" the track in a session (it just disappears), or I get too much latency back to my VST synth, so I decided to keep it all in the audio domain.Ok thanks, you can't be as old as me
Latency, for a drummer, is a terrible thing.
You will be much better off using the audio TRS connection. Trust me - I'm an old guy and I've been using MIDI since 1985 ;-}
RE: Electronic Drums - Dimitri Muskens - 01-21-2022
"I would be using easy drummer plug-in, JamKazam gives you the option in setup with midi , I'm just wondering if it is used by anyone, I'm still trying to figure out this whole setup with Jamkazam"
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Okay, Yeh, that should work. There's more drummers on JKz that trigger a plugin.
Is your EZ-D plugin 32bit?
RE: Electronic Drums - drummerman68 - 04-07-2022
What would cause my Latency to be over 2000?
RE: Electronic Drums - Zlartibartfast - 04-13-2022
(04-07-2022, 06:10 AM)drummerman68 Wrote: What would cause my Latency to be over 2000?Latency of 2000 milliseconds? that's 2 seconds - a huge amount.
The only times I ever encountered something like that were either with software that was too demanding on my CPU, or there was a MIDI loop that was double triggering my synthesizer.
If you have a MIDI controller (such as keyboard or drumkit) going straight to a sound module using a 5pin DIN cable, you shouldn't have any noticeable latency there at all.
Playing keyboard or drum pad with my friends on Jamkazam, I typically see total latency of between 12 and 15 ms. I don't use any software synths nor setup any MIDI tracks, because I had too many issues with that.