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Audio dropouts when more than 2 particpants in a session - HELP! - Mike H. - 06-19-2020 So here's my/our scenario: I have a band with 4 members. We have been using Jamkazam for about 2 months. We have had varying levels of success with the usual glitches here and there. We have all acquired and setup our own audio interfaces. We are using a mix of Behringer UMC202HD, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, and Motu or Presonus (our keyboardist, not exactly sure which one he uses). We all downloaded the respective audio interfaces' ASIO driver from manufacturers' website. Our respective audio gear setups went smoothly with both I/O and latency in the green. From a strictly audio and latency perspective everything is functioning perfectly. Each of us is able to do a solo session, play alone with metronome, and play alone with jamtracks with no problems. Stats are usually all green for all of us when we're all working. We do also utilize video in our sessions and for the most part it works fine. As of late, we have been experiencing one or more of our personal live track boxes going grey and then the loss of audio from other participants. This only tends to happen when more than 2 of us are in a session. Two participants and any of the 2 of us, everything is cool. Funny thing, when this happens none of us lose video from the others, only the audio. "Resync" will usually get all participants audio going again but usually only for a few seconds to a couple minutes. Below is a list of what we've tried recently to get things working per information gathered from other forum threads and some of the youtube tutorials.
RE: Audio dropouts when more than 2 particpants in a session - HELP! - mark@butterill.plus.com - 06-24-2020 After quite a lot of experimenting our 5 piece band (we're minus a singer at the moment) achieves generally good results with latency and quality. One user has some crackles on his line, he had a damaged incoming telephone cable (the internal cable from master socket to router) and had repaired it himself, result was awful, using a new cable has made it acceptable until we try video, when it goes berserk. He only has a 38Mb/s download speed line, which you'd hope was adequate but is clearly overstretched as soon as we add video. I think he actually has some damage to his incoming cable (the supply to his house) or maybe a dodgy router. One other user has a slower broadband (28Mb/s), no crackles but often has to enter the session, then leave & re-enter to get good sound at his end, although he sounds great to us. Again when he starts video there's a problem, this time it's massive and very variable latency. The other 3 of us have 60Mb/s broadband and are generally good, no issues with video either but the bass guitar sometimes has to leave & re-enter too. We all live in a 35 mile radius. My feelings so far is that a decent interface and fast broadband line are vital and stay away from video for best results. It's not perfect but it sure beats sitting at home playing to yourself! RE: Audio dropouts when more than 2 particpants in a session - HELP! - StuartR - 06-24-2020 (06-24-2020, 02:15 PM)mark@butterill.plus.com Wrote: After quite a lot of experimenting our 5 piece band (we're minus a singer at the moment) achieves generally good results with latency and quality. One user has some crackles on his line, he had a damaged incoming telephone cable (the internal cable from master socket to router) and had repaired it himself, result was awful, using a new cable has made it acceptable until we try video, when it goes berserk. He only has a 38Mb/s download speed line, which you'd hope was adequate but is clearly overstretched as soon as we add video. I think he actually has some damage to his incoming cable (the supply to his house) or maybe a dodgy router. One other user has a slower broadband (28Mb/s), no crackles but often has to enter the session, then leave & re-enter to get good sound at his end, although he sounds great to us. Again when he starts video there's a problem, this time it's massive and very variable latency. The other 3 of us have 60Mb/s broadband and are generally good, no issues with video either but the bass guitar sometimes has to leave & re-enter too. We all live in a 35 mile radius.Don't enable video during a session once you start playing. That's just asking for trouble. (06-19-2020, 09:01 PM)Mike H. Wrote: So here's my/our scenario: I have a band with 4 members. We have been using Jamkazam for about 2 months. We have had varying levels of success with the usual glitches here and there. We have all acquired and setup our own audio interfaces. We are using a mix of Behringer UMC202HD, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, and Motu or Presonus (our keyboardist, not exactly sure which one he uses). We all downloaded the respective audio interfaces' ASIO driver from manufacturers' website. Our respective audio gear setups went smoothly with both I/O and latency in the green. From a strictly audio and latency perspective everything is functioning perfectly. Each of us is able to do a solo session, play alone with metronome, and play alone with jamtracks with no problems. Stats are usually all green for all of us when we're all working. We do also utilize video in our sessions and for the most part it works fine. As of late, we have been experiencing one or more of our personal live track boxes going grey and then the loss of audio from other participants. This only tends to happen when more than 2 of us are in a session. Two participants and any of the 2 of us, everything is cool. Funny thing, when this happens none of us lose video from the others, only the audio. "Resync" will usually get all participants audio going again but usually only for a few seconds to a couple minutes. Below is a list of what we've tried recently to get things working per information gathered from other forum threads and some of the youtube tutorials.Audio frame size of 1 msec for everyone. No video while you're playing! Be sure you look at everyones stats (hover over dot at the right end of the box to verify their frame rate and to be sure they're using Wired Ethernet). RE: Audio dropouts when more than 2 particpants in a session - HELP! - Hans Peter Augustesen - 06-25-2020 Yes, "It seems to be that this is a network issue". My first advice is to not use video - when playing. About 4 mbps upload is required for a session with 7. That is without video. 7 is the recommended maximum in session. For full function about 25 mbps upload is recommended, I believe. Upload is more important than download. Crucial is the so-called PING - answertime from your computer to your provider and back. |