(12-03-2020, 08:01 PM)CMiska Wrote: Are the paid premium user subscriptions available yet? I see the paid tiers and descriptions, but I cannot find where to sign up for them. If they're available please post a link. TIA.

(12-03-2020, 10:25 PM)waarhorse777 Wrote: This was totally expected.  Something like this for free wasn't going to last. Plus - with the expectation of support? Pay for it. Go Fund Me is a donation pledge not a reservation for future products.

(12-04-2020, 02:39 PM)terryh Wrote: I don't object in principle to paying for something that I value - and I do value Jamkazam and have previously donated money to help fund development. I just think that the prices are way too high for something that is, to be charitable, a rather poor beta release. Only yesterday I had the client crash twice in the space of an hour - once when I wasn't touching anything, just chatting to someone. 

What I can't understand at all is the pricing model. Why does a larger group have to pay more per person to use the software? It makes no commercial sense! If anything, it should be cheaper per person for larger groups. A group of 10 has to pay $100 a month for the privilege of using Jamkazam, whereas a group of 4 can meet for an hour a week for free. Where's the logic in that?

There are many thousands of people who use and value Jamkazam on a regular basis. Surely it would be better to keep them all in the fold by charging a couple of dollars a month, than to drive most of them - and particularly larger groups - into the hands of the competition. At least until JK works reliably. They could always offer better quality/service for higher prices, but still keep it possible for larger groups to keep using the software without spending a fortune on something that isn't finished yet.

I just hope they read this forum and reconsider. We are already starting to evaluate the various other options out there.


Agreed, though I've had increasing and tremendous success with JK, the audio keeps getting better, and the streams much more reliable in the last couple of months.  It has been a life- and sanity-saver!  My experience has been that either JK sets up easily and wonderfully well, or it takes many many hours to set up properly.  Over the months there have been major crashes, some significant enough to interrupt the stream, severe limits on number of participants (in October I was able to stream a quartet without interruption for the first time; up until then even the trio streams were iffy).  And now having invested all those hours to get it working beautifully, to find out that subscription costs will probably send most of those musicians with whom I've been playing away because:

-they aren't using JK enough to warrant the cost (online gigs are hard to come by)
-those gigs just aren't making much money
-the only good option for streaming seems to be the platinum plan
-the more musicians I want to play with, the more it will cost

I have suggested different pricing:
perhaps a fee per stream, including a rehearsal/tech set up, or in general pricing based on usage
perhaps a discount for bands/groups who play together regularly

I truly appreciate David, Peter and Seth's incredibly hard work and dedication to JK.  It's a brilliant program and when it works well, it's a lifeline!

best,
karel

(10-25-2020, 09:53 PM)Yoon Lee Wrote:

• Fellow users, have you received any announcement or newsletter regarding the coming paid subscription plans? 
  

• And again, the community of people who make Jamkazam such a lively and noisy place - what are your thoughts?
  

Yes, I received an email announcement yesterday with all the details. As an active daily user, I'm all in favor of subscription pricing and have been expecting it to happen for a while. I have one student on JK now and expect to have more.  My musical buddy and I have streamed live concerts to the Web from JK and look forward to doing more. And we're right now in the midst of recording some of our JK collaborations and sharing them on social media. Without JK we would have been stuck in our own studios in Brooklyn and Pittsburgh for the last nine months, bored to death and craving musical companion$p. JK  has been a real lifesaver and I am completely happy to have a way to support it and help the developers improve its functionality.

I contributed to the GoFundMe a few months ago and was happy to see how much that supercharged development, so I'm looking forward to even more improvements as JamKazam transitions to a subscription model.

Cindy Harris
Pittsburgh, PA

(10-26-2020, 09:28 AM)jschwarz Wrote: Does this mean, for example, that a group of 6 members will need to come up with 6 x 4.99 = 30 $ a month (360 $/year) and 20 choristers (if this size group is even possible with JK) would have to pay 20 x 10 $ monthly = 200 $ or 2400 $ /year? For a modestly-sized amateur chorus this is a non-starter IMHO.