(06-21-2020, 01:36 PM)Hans Peter Augustesen Wrote: Ok - thank you. That is Peter Walker, then.

What about  the link to the diagram? Can - and will - you provide it?

Here, of course - it should not be needed to send a note to whatever. Simply put it here ...

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"First of all, the audio is routed peer-to-peer between musicians in a session. The audio does not run through JamKazam servers. So the location of our servers is not actually relevant to your latency at all"
[...]
"Best,

David"

David Wilson is CEO of JamKazam
from >http://forum.cakewalk.com/Anything-like-Jamkazam-out-there-m3289696.aspx

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Search result for peer-to-peer:
https://forum.jamkazam.com/search.php?action=results&sid=fbc820ad11ea8153fe6280a9057eb9c4&sortby=lastpost&order=desc

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Packet Rate Control And Related Systems For Interactive Music Systems
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2015/0256473.html

"Inventors:
Walker, Peter A. (Cedar Park, TX, US)
Wilson, David J. (Austin, TX, US)
Comer, Robert Scott (Austin, TX, US)
Call, Michael Seth (Austin, TX, US)"

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What is "501 C3 nonprofit"?

I could figure it out for myself, maybe.
But, of course, I do not want to spend that time - it is your job to explain. For all people here ... even the zulues, the chinese, the danes and so on

(06-21-2020, 03:26 PM)Hans Peter Augustesen Wrote: Yes of course, each member of a session have a different latency condition with each of the other in session.
That is how it works.

I have just been in a session - with 7-8 people

1. Germany = about 30 ms
2. Florida, USA = about 70 ms
3. California, USA = about 110 ms
4. Great Britain = about 40 ms
5.  Great Britain = about 45 ms
6.  ?
7.  ?
8.  ?

(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly propredictable between the same locations.  In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

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(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly unpropredictable between the same locations.  latecy is influced by routing In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

(06-22-2020, 10:46 PM)StuartR Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly propredictable between the same locations.  In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

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(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly unpropredictable between the same locations.  latecy is influced by routing In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

The JK staff are already looking at a new state of the art audio relay service which promises lower latency and bandwidth requirements. They say they've already tested this and hope to have more information soon.

interested to hear more.  

(06-22-2020, 10:51 PM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote:

(06-22-2020, 10:46 PM)StuartR Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly propredictable between the same locations.  In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

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(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly unpropredictable between the same locations.  latecy is influced by routing In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

The JK staff are already looking at a new state of the art audio relay service which promises lower latency and bandwidth requirements. They say they've already tested this and hope to have more information soon.

interested to hear more.  

(06-22-2020, 10:46 PM)StuartR Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly propredictable between the same locations.  In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

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(06-21-2020, 01:43 AM)kaminskied@comcast.net Wrote: Because of the routing behavior of the internet latency can be highly unpropredictable between the same locations.  latecy is influced by routing In fact it is possible for a connection between Europe and the US to have fewer hops than a connection between two locations 100 miles apart.  Sessions on JamKazam likely connect to a jamKazam hub and that point on the network is where each user is connecting.

Perhaps Jamkazam as a company would consider licensing the JamKazam server as a product, a product that could be installed at locations closer to the users in session.  This distributed server licensed to a collection of users (for a fee) could improve performance because it would be dedicated to that user group with lower latency connections.

Has anyone proposed this concept... a concept that is typical in large global corporation networks.

Wondering

The JK staff are already looking at a new state of the art audio relay service which promises lower latency and bandwidth requirements. They say they've already tested this and hope to have more information soon.

interested to hear more.